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WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:23 am
by onebaldbloke
Of the speaker variety.
Thinking Rogers or somesuch.......
I am not rich, BTW.
Ta,
Bob.
PS not really tall floor standing.
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:01 pm
by OzDrum
hey Bob,
We have a big old pair of ALTEC 604-8G monitors on consignment at Pony Music at the moment - owner wants $500 for the pair (including speaker leads).
These things sound great, that BIG 70's sound!
Let me know if you want to check them out.
Cheers
Geoff @ Pony Music
ph: (03)9702 3244
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:50 pm
by Paul Maybury
Hi Geoff, if Bob doesn't want them, I might. What sort of condition are they? I looked for them on your website and couldn't find them..
Cheers,
Paul Maybury
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:59 pm
by OzDrum
I will attempt to take some photos and add some specs tomorrow. These have just come in on consignment.
I would love them in our studio here but just don't have a need for more monitors.
Cheers
Geoff
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:39 pm
by OzDrum
Altec 604-8G
Dimensions are roughly as follows:
HEIGHT - 812mm (or 870mm with wheels on - casters are removable)
WIDTH - 585mm
DEPTH - 443mm (or 473 with front grill on)
We plugged them in and tested them when they came in and all seemed to work well - although we didn't do any thorough testing other than run some tracks through them. Items are on consignment in our store by owner and he is asking $500 for them.
Since I posted the info yesterday I have 3 people interested in these and I am emailling the same info to them now.
First in best dressed. Please feel free to email or phone for any more details: (03)9702 3244.
Cheers
Geoff Mison



Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:45 pm
by OzDrum
man that was quick..
SOLD...
Cheers
Geoff
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:01 pm
by Hookemeister
owner wants $500 for the pair
What a bargain... get some Mastering Lab crossovers, an old McIntosh power amp and you've got a killer monitoring setup... Wally Heiders Studio 1 circa 1975... sweet sound.
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:25 pm
by Paul Maybury
Hi Hookemeister, that's exactly what I'm after.
Wally Heider, 1975, crossed with a BBC O.B. van, circa 1975..
But without the wheels.
I am well chuffed to have acquired these.
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:31 pm
by Paul Maybury
Anyone know what these cabinets are? Stonehenge III's?
620's?
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:27 pm
by Hookemeister
I am well chuffed to have acquired these
Yeah Paul... I think you got the bargain of the year.
Anyone know what these cabinets are? Stonehenge III's?
620's?
Not a Stonehenge... too small for a 620... maybe 612 although they look to narrow.
Ideally they should be in a 9 cubic foot enclosure... a 620 cabinet.
You might track them down at audioheritage.org That's the best place on the web for everything about Altecs... or talk to Robert Grumberg... knows more about Altecs than anyone else in Australia.
Wally Heider, 1975, crossed with a BBC O.B. van, circa 1975
You'll need a bit more cubic volume than a BBC OB van if you really want the Altecs to open up... and of course a Neve console.
Do whatever you can to get the Mastering Lab crossovers... you won't regret it.
Enjoy
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:23 pm
by walding
Thank god they sold.

Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:30 pm
by Paul Maybury
Thanks gents, I'm exited abut these beasts. O.B van too small for sure, I thinking more about the equipment in one circa 1975. .
I want to try to get these speakers working at their best for use as the big monitors in a system with Auratones, KRK V4's and the Altecs.
Fun times ahead!
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:46 pm
by walding
Paul Maybury wrote:Thanks gents, I'm exited abut these beasts. O.B van too small for sure, I thinking more about the equipment in one circa 1975. .
I want to try to get these speakers working at their best for use as the big monitors in a system with Auratones, KRK V4's and the Altecs.
Fun times ahead!
Hey when u do, please please PLEASE let me know and let me have a listen to them.
Ps yes I'm in Melbourne.
Thx
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:38 am
by Paul Maybury
Sure!
Is it true these work best with low power single ended valve amps? That seems like audio file mumbo jumbo to me, I would have thought some Crowns or Auditech Murray's would be great.
Any advise on amping and crossover improvements would be welcome.
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:54 pm
by otto ruiter
Paul Maybury wrote:Sure!
Is it true these work best with low power single ended valve amps? That seems like audio file mumbo jumbo to me, I would have thought some Crowns or Auditech Murray's would be great.
Any advise on amping and crossover improvements would be welcome.
They don't need to be single-ended valve amps, but they certainly don't need a lot of power. I'd say between 10 and 50 watts per side will give you plenty of loudness. We used Crown D50 amps at CBS back in the day...
I have a pair of 604-8K speakers (see my avatar), they are driven by a preamp (with 6dB of loss!), custom electronic crossover (24dB per octave with some response tweaks) and 4 x 100 watts NAD amps and I don't get much past 10 o'clock on the volume pot! I've been toying with building a set of 4 x 20W class A transistor amps, but they're not cheap!
You should be able to find some links to resources here:
http://alteclansingunofficial.nlenet.net/Info on passive crossovers here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~jmarkwart/index.htmlCheers,
Otto
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:04 pm
by Hookemeister
Any advise on amping and crossover improvements would be welcome.
Paul... at the risk of repeating myself...
Mastering Lab crossoversHere's a schematic for it but you'll need to check the impedance as the
Mastering Lab was designed to work with 16 ohm drivers. I have seen a few 604-8G's with 16 ohm drivers.
Mastering Lab 604 Xover Schematic.png
If your interested in building it then PM me your email for a schematic and inductor details in PDF format.
Otherwise bi-amp them with an electronic crossover and Class A valve amps.
I agree with Otto they don't need a lot of power as they're quite efficient, but keep in mind, extra power is more for headroom than volume.
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:47 pm
by onebaldbloke
BUGGER!! I didn't get an email notice!
Geoff, if you get anything else like these, please tell me!!
Over,
Bob.
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:16 pm
by filjorgez
onebaldbloke wrote:BUGGER!! I didn't get an email notice!
Geoff, if you get anything else like these, please tell me!!
Over,
Bob.
"..., if Bob doesn't want them, ..."
!!???,
well that's a shame Bob,
I wish I could offer you something myself, I only have small monitors spare to offer, Dynaudio BM10 passives, Yamaha NS20, you've already had TB2+, and I also have old hifi in the way of Celestion Ditton 22, which are on ebay now.
And only If I could replace my Tannoy Arden 15's, with a pair of 12's, I would let go of the Ardens.
I'll keep an eye out for you,
regards, Phil.
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:38 pm
by simonstav
I know Kevin at Bishop Audio in Geelong has a pair of JBL 4430 for sale. Not sure of price and I believe they are in good condition.
kevin@bishopaudio.com.au or 03 52292269.
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:35 pm
by filjorgez
onebaldbloke wrote:BUGGER!! I didn't get an email notice!
Geoff, if you get anything else like these, please tell me!!
Over,
Bob.
Hey Bob, old thread I know, but did you ever find yourself some big ol' monitors?
maybe like these 'Altec lansing Santana speakers',
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111220964248 ... 1423.l2649Phil
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:22 pm
by onebaldbloke
Thanks Phil!
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:41 pm
by onebaldbloke
filjorgez wrote:onebaldbloke wrote:BUGGER!! I didn't get an email notice!
Geoff, if you get anything else like these, please tell me!!
Over,
Bob.
Hey Bob, old thread I know, but did you ever find yourself some big ol' monitors?
maybe like these 'Altec lansing Santana speakers',
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111220964248 ... 1423.l2649Phil
Thanks Phil!
Re: WTB - maybe - big ol' monitors

Posted:
Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:06 pm
by filjorgez
You're welcome Bob,
I know nothing of American speakers,
but they do look damn handsome